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1.
When did you start drumming and who were your influences.
I
started taking lessons when I was fourteen in Queens, NY at the DeBelli's School
of Music. My teacher at that time was Ernie Grace who had played with a jazz
group called The Dukes of Dixieland. My
first influence was Ringo Starr through the Beatles as well as Charlie Watts of
the Rolling Stones and Dave Clark of the Dave Clark Five. From
there I went on to listen carefully to Buddy Rich, Tony Williams, Terry Bozzio,
Dennis Chambers, Vinnie Collaiuta, Simon Phillips, so many others I can even
begin to list them. There is something to learn from so many great drummers both
past and present. Without a doubt, my biggest influence is Led Zeppelin's John
Bonham. I can't say enough as to how much his drumming and musicality has left
an indelible impression on my drumming. He was and is the greatest rock drummer
of all time. 2.
What were some of your earlier bands that you were involved in? I was in and out of a lot of local "basement" bands, the East coast version of garage bands, but my parents left New York to live in south Florida. I was in various bands in the Ft. Lauderdale area, the one that I enjoyed the most was a band called first Coventry Carol, then just Coventry. I am still in touch with all the members. 3.
How did you become involved in session drumming? When
I moved to LA I started auditioning for everything even if I knew I was the
completely wrong drummer for the situation. It was a way to keep playing and try
to get known around LA. This eventually led to a few minor small label sessions,
which then led to my recording tracks, most notably "Mony Mony" for
Billy Idol's debut release EP "Don't Stop." From
there I audition for a new group being put together by ex Deep Purple
bassist/vocalist Glenn Hughes and ex Pat Travers band guitarist Pat Thrall. I
was already a huge Glenn Hughes fan from his work with the English band Trapeze
and was aware of Pat's phenomenal guitar work with the progressive "Stomu
Yamashita's GO." I participated in the cult favorite self titled
"Hughes/Thrall" release. My
next recordings were a series of sessions, some memorable, some not, with the
likes of Billy Thorpe, Randy Bishop, Rod Falconer in LA and odd sessions in
Europe with Swiss heavy metal guitarist Vic Vergat's for his record "Muscle
of Love" in Scotland, and sessions with ex Blackmore's Rainbow keyboardist
Tony Carey in Germany. Besides
QUIET RIOT recordings, these are some of the recordings I played on from that
period: Hughes/Thrall:
Hughes/Thrall (1982) Epic There
are others, but these are the ones that immediately come to mind. 4.
It
took me a long time to realize that sometimes you should just play what the
artist wants even if you don't agree. That's session work. 5.
You played with some big international Names like Billy Thorpe and
Hughes/Thrall, what was it like working with these musicians? Working
with Glenn Hughes was a dream come true. I have nothing but good to say about
Glenn, one of the greatest singers in any genre. Still today the track
"Hold Out Your Life" is one of the best written and exciting tracks
that I had a pleasure to be a part of. 6.
How did you meet Kevin and get involved with DuBrow/Quiet Riot? After
Randy left to join Ozzy Osbourne and then Rudy followed, Kevin put together his
own band "DuBrow." At the time I was working with a band called
"Monarch" with ex Steppenwolf and Detective guitarist Michael Monarch.
Monarch was a great band. A musical combination of Led Zeppelin and Free. By
it's own musical definition, it was doomed to fail. That band still has a fond
place in my heart. When Kevin wanted new drummer, he remembered me from Monarch
and we began to work together. 7.
A. What was recording the first QR record like and what are your best
memories? B.
How much input did you have on the recording process? 8.
What was your reaction to the way the public accepted QR? 9.
What was the first tour like and give some of your better memories. Two
high water marks that I remember vividly were opening the "Rock" day
at the US Festival. We went on at 11:00 AM and gave the crowd exactly what they
wanted. Even though technically everything that could go wrong around us indeed
went wrong, we could do no wrong for that audience on that day. That one show
put QUIET RIOT in the center of the rock world at that moment in time. The
second memorable moment was in November of that year. It was around my birthday
and we were opening for Black Sabbath on their "Born Again" tour. Just
before show time we were told that "Metal Health" would hit #1 in the
Billboard charts the following week. In the many years that have passed since
that hallmark, none of the detractors of QUIET RIOT can ever tarnish or take
that moment away. 10.
A.
With all of the success of the first record, was it hard to go back into the
studio for record number 2? The
label wanted to follow the old adage of "strike while the iron is hot"
and wanted a follow-up release immediately. We were not physically, mentally or
musically prepared to make Condition Critical. Also, with the newfound success,
tensions in the band were already beginning to surface. B.
What was the Vibe like during the recording process? 11.
QR were criticized for the Slade covers. What is your take on that? 12.
During this time, Kevin was criticized for talking about other bands
in interviews. What did this do to you personally? 13.
What was your feelings about the public not accepting CC the way they
did Metal Health? There
was no way for Condition Critical to compete with the first release and
especially because we were so ill prepared to make that record. Still, it sold
well over a million units and not that many rock bands do those kinds of numbers
today. The much maligned "Condition Critical" still manage to hit #15
on the Billboard Charts, but "Mama We're All Crazy Now" didn't break
the Top 40 charts topping at #51. Still, not too bad all things considered. 14.
What were your feelings about Rudy leaving? 15.
A. Going into QR 3 with a new bass player and a lot of expectations,
how do you think that record stacked up against the first 2? Professionally,
the rot had already set in. The relationship with the label and producer was
reduced to nothing more than a business venture and very impersonal. The band
members by then had all become islands unto ourselves, myself included. I
had no expectations for the third release. With a few musical exceptions, it was
a means to a way. A reason to continue, a necessary evil. QR III did manage to
reach #42 in the Billboard charts, but the "single" The Wild And The
Young never charted to my knowledge. B.
What was the effect of the producer on that record? 16.
After the tour, Kevin was fired. What is your take on what happened
during the time that led up to this. With
the past success of the band, those associated with the band through business
wanted to place blame somewhere, and the obvious place was to start with the
plethora of media related problems that surrounded Kevin. You have to understand
that a singer in a band is generally the focal point and therefore the one who
is given the forum. If that forum turns ugly, that person is also the focal
point. There
were discussions as to what to do. Stay as we were, break up and call it a day,
or to no longer continue with Kevin. Since we were close to the end of the year
and the end of the tour, I thought it would be best to just finish the tour and
then take up the matter. We were in Tokyo when Kevin heard a rumor that started
in Los Angeles that he was going to be asked to leave. From that point there was
no convincing him that was not the case because no decision had been made. By
then the relationship between the band as it was and Kevin was all but over. We
finished the Japanese tour, did our final concert in Hawaii and parted company
then and there. 17.
After the departure of Kevin, you hired Paul Shortino to front the
band, how did this come about? We
were looking for someone to fill the void and no one we auditioned really
worked. We had heard a tape of Paul Shortino doing a rendition of Janis Joplin's
classic "Piece of My Heart" and knew he was talented. It seemed at the
time a reasonable choice. 18.
Why did the
record come out under QR and not another name as the material was different? We
actually wanted to change the name of the band to have a new beginning. When we
were unceremoniously informed that if we did change the name our recording
budget would be cut in half because we wouldn't get a "QUIET RIOT"
size budget, we decided to keep the name. It was also a sense of pride. We had
worked very hard as QUIET RIOT to just abandon the name and the hard work that
had been put into the band. I used to wonder if changing the name would have
made a difference, and I don't think so. Also, there were two factions within
the band with Carlos and I being managed by WEM Management and Paul by Niji
management. I remember that Paul thought that with a different band name he
would be able to have more control of the situation. The reality was that he was
joining QUIET RIOT, not QUIET RIOT was joining Paul Shortino, and that name
still had some value. When issues would arise that Paul and his management
didn't agree with Paul would quit, then come back and quit again. The fourth
album was a really good record, not a QUIET RIOT record as might be perceived by
the audience, but a good record nonetheless. By then the music scene and taste
were already changing and the record wouldn't have found an audience no matter
what you called the band. I'm still glad we did that album and I think Paul did
a terrific job. But by then it was obvious that the public at large was not
interested in the recorded QUIET RIOT. The "QR" album never entered
the Billboard Top 100 only reaching #119. 19.
A. What happened after the record came out and toured? The
record came out and was ignored. We toured South America and Japan and were
ignored. At the end of the tour in Tokyo I let the band, management and the
label know that I was leaving the band. I think Paul threatened to quit again
and I just didn't want to deal with it any further. Everyone else got on the bus
at the Tokyo Hilton to go to the airport, I stayed in Tokyo.
B. Why was there not another release with this lineup? It
was pointless. The QUIET RIOT that I knew, that the audience knew was over.
Kevin was gone, Rudy was gone and Carlos and I by that point were practically
strangers to each other. 20.
After QR split, you joined W.A.S.P to record and tour for the Headless
Children. How did you get this job? When
QUIET RIOT were recording the fourth album, Blackie asked me if I would be
interested in joining W.A.S.P. and recording. I declined because I had my hands
full trying to bail the rushing waters of discontent out of the S.S. QUIET RIOT
with two new members. Blackie was very persistent, so I told him if he didn't
find a drummer he liked to record what would later become "The Headless
Children" that I would try to work out my schedule to record with him. At
the end of the QR 4 sessions Blackie asked again if I could do the record and I
agreed. I would finish the end of the sessions with QR and commence rehearsals
and then the sessions with W.A.S.P. in the evenings. Recording
"Headless" was one of the best experiences I had had in a long time.
Blackie is totally committed to his brand of music, I mean, the guy is
certifiable he's so into it. I had known Chris Holmes for years and he really is
a good guitar player, much better than he's given credit for. He is so left of
center that he goes full circle and is still out of control! Johnny Rod was
great to work with musically. He has one of the biggest vocabulary of playable
rock songs I've ever seen. Sometimes though, he made Chris look calm! After
returning from South America I did the W.A.S.P. video for "Forever
Free" which lasted late into the evening, went home packed, showered and
went to the airport to leave for Japan and what would be the end of the QR 4
version of the band. I called Blackie when I had made my decision to leave QR
and he suggested I stay in Tokyo to do press for "Headless" as he
could send Chris to do press there with me while he tackled the press in Europe.
We tore up Tokyo and the press with Chris as Godzilla and me as a Samurai.
Really a fun time after all the QR stress. We partied that city dry! From
Tokyo, Chris and I flew to London to begin rehearsals for what was to become the
year long tour to support the "Headless" release. It was musically a
great year for me. 21.
A. Still on
W.A.S.P., you stayed on with Blackie to record The Crimson Idol, what was it
like making such an intricate concept record? Difficult.
It was a complex set of ideas set to music and constantly changing and evolving.
Blackie can be very experimental within the confines of that particular project.
Rehearsal went on forever as did the recording process. I pride myself in making
any musical idea work regardless of how abstract that idea may be. Blackie
always pushes the musical envelope with me because he knows I can fill that
envelope with ideas from such a different place that he wouldn't have thought
of. Then in turn he embraces that idea and makes it part of the whole. It's and
interesting and challenging process.
B. Why did you not tour with W.A.S.P. to support it? I
was going through a very bad period of my personal life. My Mother was dying of
cancer and I just didn't care about anything or anyone other than my mother. My
thoughts were always with her and music was becoming a necessary inconvenience
in my life. When my Mother died my world stood still and no one could console me
or fill the emptiness left by her absence. Nothing mattered then, not QUIET
RIOT, not W.A.S.P. not me. I became very moody and difficult to work with. I had
already completed all the recordings for "Idol" with the exception of
"Chainsaw Charlie" which was all but done. Blackie and I butted heads
on a musical issue and I left the studio with both fully knowing it would be
best. 22.
A. What brought you back to QR?? I
had just finished two years of rehearsal, recordings and a few live dates with a
band called "Heavy Bones" that was signed to Reprise/Warner Bros. I
was unhappy in that situation and had made up my mind to leave the band around
the same time that Kevin DuBrow called me. He and Carlos had resurrected QUIET
RIOT once more and were doing dates. They needed a drummer to fulfill a
commitment for about a half dozen shows. I had not spoken with Kevin or Carlos
in nearly five years but it was really natural for me to get together with them.
I had put all the bad blood behind me after my Mother passed away and had put my
life back into a rational perspective. I agreed to do the dates but nothing
more. They had already started recording what would become the
"Terrified" record and needed to record the remaining half of the
record. I agreed to record the tracks and they asked if I would join. I turned
them down three times for no other reason than I was not sure what I wanted to
do. In the end, Kevin persuaded me to rejoin and I've been here ever since.
B. What was it like being back in the studio with Kevin and Carlos after so
long? Very
easy. Kevin is a real music guy. He lives for the stuff if he's having fun. We
always enjoyed the recording process and I have always been able to bring
something to the process. No matter what anyone says about Kevin or what Kevin
does or doesn't do, I still consider him my friend. End of story. They also had
a bass player at that time name Kenney (Kevin) Hillary that brought that whole
"English" bass paying mentality that we love. 23.
QR did 2 great
indy released CDs right off the bat, Terrified and Down To The Bone. What was it
like to do those and tour for them in such a different musical climate? Touring
for both those releases in the early 90's was nothing short of walking on
splintered glass barefooted. The grunge/alternative market was in full swing and
we were not any part of it. Fans came to the shows, but it was a tough time.
Every day it was like the Christians going into the Roman Coliseum. You know
you're going in, but are you coming back out?! We basically said the hell with
it. You like us, great. You don't? too bad! 24.
What else did you do musically besides QR and W.A.S.P. during the 90s?
Mostly
odds and ends, as well as being part of all those "Tribute" releases: Thunderbolt/A
Tribute To AC/DC (1998) 25.
You also did the W.A.S.P. CD Still Not Black Enough, what was it like
being back with Blackie? I
was actually surprised that Blackie tracked me down and asked if I'd be
interested in recording "Still Not Black Enough" when he did. A lot of
time had passed and Blackie had a better understanding of what I was going
through when we last parted company. He was having difficulties finishing the
tracks with the drummer he had for reasons that I was not interested in knowing.
I have always enjoyed working with Blackie, always will. I had the time and
gladly lent a couple of musical hands. I
have participated in whole or in part on the following W.A.S.P. recordings: W.A.S.P.
Headless Children (1988) 26.
To set the record straight, how much of your drumming is on the
W.A.S.P CDs CI and SNBE? I'm
pretty sure I am on all of "Crimson" with the exception of
"Chainsaw Charlie" which part of which is me with additional drumming
added after I left. Blackie took the political choice to list his new drummer
first in the credits and myself second. I think partly because the new drummer
would be touring and partly because he was still unhappy about our falling out
at the end of the sessions. He claims I am only on half, and that's OK, maybe
so, but I don't think so. On
"SNBE" probably fifty-fifty. I don't remember how he credited the drum
tracks. 27.
What
was it like having Rudy back in the band? Rudy
and I had already been working on a few sessions together, mainly with ex Dio
guitarist Craig Goldy, so there already existed a continuation of our musical
relationship. QUIET RIOT were doing a set at the request of Marylyn Manson for
his after show party at a club in Hollywood. I asked Rudy, who was not yet back
in QR, if he would like to play that night on "Cum on Feel the Noize"
and "Bang Your Head." He did, he never left! When the four of us were
playing those songs together again after so many years, it was QUIET RIOT. I
washed away both time and some of the problems from our collective past. 28.
A. QR have released two indy CDs since Rudy came back, Alive And Well
and Guilty Pleasures, what are your feelings on these and were you happy with
the way there were received? "Alive
and Well" for the most part was recorded to get product out and let people
know that the four of us were working together. Beyond tracks like "I Don't
Know What I Want" and the "Ritual" I don't really embrace that
record. "Guilty
Pleasures" is the first time in a long time that we really cared about
writing and recording. Generally I am very happy with the way the songs were
written and performed. I think they could have been better recorded technically,
but overall I think it was a good record. As
to how these two releases were received is another matter. "A&W"
fell on deaf ears, fair enough, it was just and OK release. "GP" was
critically better received but the market for this type of music has been so
narrow for so many years that I am happy if people like it and if it sells. If
not, I am the last to be surprised.
B. Why was the old material covered for the Alive And Well cd? The
label would only do the deal if we agreed to re-record the old material to
comprise half of the record. We did it reluctantly and with misgivings. The
label wanted to capitalize on the cash cow that CBS/Sony have been milking for
years. In the end, the laugh was on the label as it didn't sell very well. Just
deserves. 29.
What was it like going aback into arenas with Poison? The
general perception outside of the band is that if you are doing a
"arena" tour, you must be important. That may be the case for the
headliner, but not for the opening acts in this day and age. Poison were
absolutely great to us. I can't say enough as to how well we were treated and
respected by Bobby, Rikki, CC and Brett as well as their crew and touring
personnel. The fans were absolutely the best to us. In that respect I have no
regrets. The actual process of that type of touring can be far less enjoyable
than an outsider might imagine. Having said that, work is work and I'm happy
QUIET RIOT had the opportunity to be a part of that insanity. 30.
A. What brought on the idea for the DVD? We
were approached to do the DVD last year and it seemed like a good time to do it.
Everyone else has, why not us. We made a conscious decision that if we were to
record a live show for a DVD, that it would be a "live" show. No
studio overdubs, no fixing parts, just a live show. Nothing more, nothing less.
It will be a true representation of the band live. I realize that everyone is a
critic these days and with a band like QUIET RIOT you are bound to offend
someone no matter how hard you try. If there are no overdubs on the recording
and there are mistakes, people will say we suck. If we fix the mistakes to make
it more agreeable to the collective ear, then they will say we suck because we
fixed it and it's not "real." Anyway you look at it, some will like
it, some will hate it, some will never see it.
B. What will be included on it? It's
our usual live set composed mostly of songs from Metal Health and a few from
most of the other releases. We are including some songs that we've not played in
15 or 20 years. A good cross section of QUIET RIOT.
C. Who is releasing it? 2RS
Productions, Los Angeles, CA. 31.
What does the future hold for Frankie Banali?? QUIET
RIOT! W.A.S.P.? Sessions? Website: www.frankiebanali.com Coming February
2003.... 32.
The last few W.A.S.P. releases had you drumming on them. Why were you
contracted to drum on them when W.A.S.P. already had a full time drummer? Apparently
there were some problems with their current drummer. It's really not my place to
comment on it. I was just happy to be included in the recordings. 33.
A. How did Heavy Bones form? The
band was initially put together by Joel Ellis the singer, and Gary Hoey on
guitar. They had a bass player at that time but was later replaced by Rex
Tennyson. I knew Joel from his Cats & Boots band. They were looking for a
drummer and I auditioned like everyone else and they asked me to join.
B. What was it like working with Gary Hoey? Gary
Hoey is a brilliant guitarist. One of the best I've had the opportunity to work
with. Besides Heavy Bones, I recorded two of Gary's solo records, as well as
bits and pieces ending up on several other of his releases: Gary
Hoey Animal Instinct (1993) Reprise Working
with producer Richie Zito was a good experience for me. He's a good New York
Italian boy. Jimbo Barton mixed it and he did a very good job.
D. It was a great cd, do you think the timing was wrong with it's release? The
timing couldn't have been more wrong. It was actually a far worse time to
release a record of that type than when QUIET RIOT released the "QR"
record. Nobody cared. And the production which was very lush was completely the
opposite of what was the flavor of the month at that time. When everyone was
releasing bare minimum productions, the Heavy Bones record was full of layer
upon layer of guitar overdubs, multiple track vocals with huge room an reverb
effects, and big drums. Everybody hated it. I liked it. What do I know? 34.
How did you get
involved with the Hear N Aide project and what was it like working with such an
incredible bunch of musicians? It
was great. I had received a call early on from former Dio guitarist Vivian
Campbell about the then unnamed project. He came up to my house and played me
the basic song and told me if it came together he would like for me to be
involved. I was flattered. Nothing happened for a long time, but I let him know
that I'd be there if and when they might need me. As it turned out, the session
for the backing track was booked for the day after I was to return from a QUIET
RIOT South American tour which we aptly titled "The Just Say No Tour"
with a picture of Nancy Reagan on the laminates. I returned to LA late the
evening before and had my drums taken to the studio early the next morning. It
was great to essentially be in Dio for one day alongside of Vinny Appice. The
band was Dio plus myself. We rehearsed the song and there was a break for Vinny
and I to each do solo drum fills. Much to Ronnie Dio's annoyance, Vinny and I
would just keep playing well after everyone had finished the song each run
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